The first thing the prophet tells us is that his vision is from the Lord, and that it concerns the nation Edom, and that there is a report that has gone out from the Lord to the nations to prepare them for battle against Edom. But they also knew that Edom, too, was guilty. We must recognize that God has established the Israeli state, not to fulfill His promises to Abraham, but to fulfill His obligation to Esau-Edom. (PART 2)<br>In this part 2, we look at the extreme opposite of that by looking at the question: can Edomites be saved? Zechariah's book can be divided up into eight visions, four messages, and two burdens. Highlighting who the Edomites are suddenly puts us on the defensive so we deviate from the point and focus on something else. Are you not reading any precepts shown on this page? Hopefully so far you have gathered that repentance is not a feeling, though it may start with one. Verse 7: "All your allies have deceived you, they have driven you to the border; your confederates have prevailed against you; your trusted friends have set a trap under youthere is no understanding of it." Salvation is for Israel and only Israel no other peoples have the Most Highs compassion. And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger sojourneth, there shall ye give him his inheritance, saith YAHUAH Elohiym. It's true that Edom is mentioned in both Isaiah 63 and Isaiah 34 in connection to God's ultimate judgment. Or as Jesus says in Luke 16:15, "What is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.". Hebrews 12:16-17 Can Edomites repent? Isaiah 14:1 For YAHUAH will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel (in the end it will still be about Israel), and set them in their own land: and the strangers (Gentiles) shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave (cling) to the house of Jacob (not separated from them). Very soon the recompense will come, and after that all the nations will render an account to God. |, Chapter 6: Deuteronomy: The Second Law - Speech 1, forcibly converted them to Judaism and incorporated them into the Jewish nation, 6201 University Avenue, NE Fridley, MN 55432. Many in the Church assumed that the Jews were both Judah and Israel and so they mistook Zionism for the fulfillment of prophecies of Israels regathering. In a nutshell, they say Edom could not be the whiteman if David . In todays passage, we find the author using this technique once again. We ought to adopt God's attitude toward Edom, rather than to return hatred for hatred. That is why there were Gentiles who left Egypt with the children of Israel, but barely any mention was made of them. No Chance to Repent | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at Ligonier.org | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at Ligonier.org John Owen tells us that Esau is a clear example of the truth that "no one knows where deliberate sin may lead." Unrepentant, deliberate sin should cause us to q Zion, the city of God, shall be holy because it will be filled not with people who never sinned, but with people who have been broken and humbled by their sin and have thrown themselves for mercy on Jesus and have come to love him more than anything and any person in the world, because "he loved us and gave himself for us. But he answered her not a word (because she was a Gentile). This is the fulfillment of verse 1 where God sends out a report to summon the nations against Edom. Mat 15:22 Mat 15:28 And, behold, a woman of Canaan (Gentile) came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Master, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But instead she gloated. No one seems to know who this prophet was. Because Jacob had taken the Birthright in an unlawful manner, Isaac told Esau that the dominion would be given back to him, and that Jacobs yoke would be broken from off Esaus neck. Ezk 47:21 Ezk 47:23So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of Israel.And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water: But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto Elohiym: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands. When he has had sufficient time to prove his bloodthirsty character (Ez. The Edomites had their origin in 2006 BC at the birth of Esau. 2. CHAPTER VERSE Hebrews 12:17 "For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears." King James Version (KJV) < Previous Verse Next Verse > View Chapter Hebrews 12:17 Context The Edomites will have nowhere to turn, and they have no understanding of the fact that all their former allies have turned against them. In this part 2, we look at the extreme opposite of that by examining whether Edomites (the descendants of Esau) can be saved. For your violence against your brother Jacob shame shall cover you, and you shall be cut off forever. There is no Jew or gentile, all are one in Christ. God Himself will sort out these claims, give everyone his due, and adjudicate the case with perfect justice. After we realize our need, Christians seek God, through prayer, for forgiveness. 12:16) that in reality was far from God. Galatians 3:28even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. Obadiah and his people knew that their own distress and calamity were deserved. Isa 56:6 Isa 56:8Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YAHUAH, to serve him, and to love the name of YAHUAH, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer:their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people. Salvation is of the (true) Jews. Had it not been for my child, I would not have reached those others, as they are not my primary responsibility. Now turn north. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpbGSM0ZtM0. Obadiah looks into the future and sees the great and terrible day of the Lord coming, when all accounts will be settled. Deuteronomy 2:1. Yet knowing their identity as Edomites is the reason NOT to hate them, according to the divine law. 11:16). Surrounded by deep ravines amid the rugged highlands of southern Jordan, the steep-sided "rock" of es-Sela may be where King Amaziah of Judah slaughtered 10,000 Edomites.. Edom (, m, "red") was a nation in the southern Levant from the eleventh century B.C.E until Roman times. I viewed some congregations teaching that King David Was RUDDY which means RED because it is the same Hebrew word used to describe Esau/Edom being red. Im still amazed that we Edomites have a chance at all (also, please forgive my profile picture, I changed it on my google account but it doesnt show that I have my head covered now, this picture is shameful to me now). Do you have an email address I can contact you at? A descendant of Esau, who was born red and hairy. Read on Mobile. It's to admit that you made a mistake and that you are at the mercy of the judge's ruling. It is not unrighteous with God that he made one vessel to honour and 1 vessel to dishonour. Repentance needs to be proved. The Edomites primarily inhabited the area of Mount Seir. Other articles where Edomite is discussed: Edom: The Edomites probably occupied the area about the 13th century bc. Like Adam and Eve, Saul sought to pass off the responsibility for his own sin to someone else (compare Genesis 3:11-13 ). King Aretas and the Apostle Paul) Tombs on the way into Petra before entering the Siq. And she said, Truth, Master: yet the dogs (Gentiles) eat of the CRUMBS which fall from their masters (Israels) table (she showed faith and humility). I just want to please the most high and repent unto him for even the smallest shot. If given opportunity, nations would regularly invade and plunder the wealth of another nation, if they thought they might get away with it. In chapters 3 and 4, we observed that our position is not unlike that of the first generation of Israel that was barred from the Promised Land due to its lack of faith. Third, God abominates pride and will bring it down. However, you have to cling to them. That says that Esaus seed will be rooted out from under heaven after Esau becomes great. And he prayed unto YAHUAH, and said, I pray thee, O YAHUAH, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. Verse 1: "The vision of Obadiah. And for those on the path of Jacob God's encouraging word is, "Look up and rejoice, for your salvation is guaranteed". No Christian should have the jitters that the world is careening out of control toward a meaningless catastrophe. If you are engaging in such sin, repent today and trust Christ alone to save you. As with Alma, our happiness and joy can be sweet and exquisite. Esau became the father of the Edomites and other nations, including Amalek. That should be hard for Gentiles who many are on top at the moment, as pride will make it tough for them to humble themselves to these despised people. True. You've been thinking one way, but now you think the opposite way. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to the promise" (Galatians 3:28, 29). To the wordThis is explained by one incident. In their attack upon Judah, the Philistine and Arabians were probably assisted by the: Edomites. In the twentieth century, a new political movement arose called Zionism. But his covenant membership was no guarantee that he would find salvation. 29:56. Jon 3:4 Jon 3:10And Jonah began to enter into the city a days journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.So the people of Nineveh believed Elohiym, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. In this part 2, we look at the extreme opposite of that by looking at the question: can Edomites be saved? 3 groups: Esau, Japhet, unknown ancient. In Deut. But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith YAHUAH. Let's read the book together, making some explanatory observations along the way. They are not the apple of YAHUAHS eyes. Give them jobs or opportunities if you can? Get our Question of the Week delivered right to your inbox! I believe and know that YAHAWSHI is coming for his house in the last days but most Israelite camps today teach edom has no shot. You are correct that salvation is available for people from all nations; however, there is more to it than that, so let me give you all this warning. It was Isaacs prophecy to Esau-Edom in Genesis 27:40. Obadiah clearly predicted Edom's destruction ( Obadiah 1:1, 8 ), and the prophecy offers a list of specific reasons for God's impending judgment: - Their heart of pride: "The pride of your heart has deceived you" ( Obadiah 1:3 ). What I thought repent meant: feel or express sincere regret or remorse about one's wrongdoing or sin. It was common in those days to treat other nations as if they had no right to exist.